In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, hosts Johan and Sander explore the concept of a product mindset in software development.

They discuss the differences between building software and creating a product, emphasizing the importance of understanding stakeholder needs and engaging with them throughout the development process.

The conversation highlights the significance of early feedback, iterative planning, and team collaboration, using Tesla as a case study to illustrate successful product development strategies.

The episode concludes with key takeaways on starting small and fostering a cultural shift towards agile methodologies.